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    Re: altec model 19....

    Would it be possible I wonder for someone to put up a photo (closeup) of exactly what & where these 4 ground lugs are on the board, and how the wires are bridged?

    .....I'd want to have an unmistakable ref to look at if & when I pull mine out again and I'm not sure I'm looking at the lugs discussed in AB's photos.


    Thanks, Russ

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    Re: altec model 19....

    Here's a picture highlighting the rivets at the base of the lugs. The lower right one is obscured by the resistor. This crossover does not show the modification. All that needs to be done is to connect all four lugs with one wire soldered into place thus creating a better ground than the aluminum plate.
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    Re: altec model 19....

    Quote Originally Posted by Altec19 View Post
    Here's a picture highlighting the rivets at the base of the lugs.

    Thanks for the pic. Now that I see it I feel kinda ridiculous as it is so obvious! Yes, easy to spot.

    As another idea, although bridging with a piece of wire is best....what about shooting some deoxit into these lugs? I'm pretty sure the stuff would seep in between the pieces.


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    Re: altec model 19....

    .....at best, it would still seem to be only a mechanical connection subject to oxidation. I would solder a wire from one lug to the next, starting from lug one through four. When I did this it restored the HF levels that I didn't know were significantly missing.
    ( thanks to those posting pics, very helpful!)

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    Re: altec model 19....

    ...Also, Russnohio...you can use clip leads (wire with alligator clips) connected to each lug to see if there is any HF change. I would be interested in hearing if you find any difference.

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    Re: altec model 19....

    Quote Originally Posted by Russnohio View Post
    What about shooting some deoxit into these lugs?
    Deoxit was my first thought as well. On second thought, Deoxit *could* be as good as soldering but why not just solder it and not worry if it is as good as it can possibly be?
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    Re: altec model 19....

    Quote Originally Posted by Altec19 View Post
    Deoxit was my first thought as well. On second thought, Deoxit *could* be as good as soldering but why not just solder it and not worry if it is as good as it can possibly be?
    Use 12 GA 99.99% silver wire and solder with 3% silver...........ok, that's pretty esoteric.
    14 GA romex ground wire makes a good buss bar.
    Solder with 2% or 3% silver is alaways a good idea. In fact run the heavier gauge wire to the terminal strips on the back of the x-over as well.

    Ron

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    Re: altec model 19....

    Quote Originally Posted by RonSSS View Post
    Use 12 GA 99.99% silver wire and solder with 3% silver...........ok, that's pretty esoteric.
    14 GA romex ground wire makes a good buss bar.
    Solder with 2% or 3% silver is alaways a good idea. In fact run the heavier gauge wire to the terminal strips on the back of the x-over as well.

    Ron
    Very good suggestion when considering the "less that ideal" original wire found on the model 19 crossovers.

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    Re: altec model 19....

    Quote Originally Posted by rontec View Post
    Very good suggestion when considering the "less that ideal" original wire found on the model 19 crossovers.

    Whaddaya mean, "less than ideal"?

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